Comments on: The most overrated albums (part I) http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/ Stay plugged into the A with Creative Loafing's music blog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:10:52 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sam Howe http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-250 Sam Howe Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:09:27 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/#comment-250 yep, you're a fuckstick. what a douchebag... who the fuck are you to pass judgment on anything, let alone some of the greatest albums of all time? who's overrating it? you actually sat around thinking about negative things to say about these masterpieces... you, my friend, are a self-absorbed, pontificating prick. did you really describe Radiohead as "decent, safe Brit pop with abundant bells and whistles"? and "The Wall" as "bloated and self-important"? what a fucking toolbag. and a bad writer at that. nothing worse than a bad writer with stupid opinions and all the time in world to impose them on everyone else via the internet. anyway, i'm probably just feeding your ego by replying, but i really needed you to know what a huge douchebag you are. you don't deserve to listen to this music. get fucked. --sam yep, you’re a fuckstick.

what a douchebag… who the fuck are you to pass judgment on anything, let alone some of the greatest albums of all time? who’s overrating it?

you actually sat around thinking about negative things to say about these masterpieces… you, my friend, are a self-absorbed, pontificating prick.

did you really describe Radiohead as “decent, safe Brit pop with abundant bells and whistles”? and “The Wall” as “bloated and self-important”?

what a fucking toolbag. and a bad writer at that. nothing worse than a bad writer with stupid opinions and all the time in world to impose them on everyone else via the internet.

anyway, i’m probably just feeding your ego by replying, but i really needed you to know what a huge douchebag you are. you don’t deserve to listen to this music. get fucked.

–sam

]]> By: David Lee Simmons http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-130 David Lee Simmons Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:10:36 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/#comment-130 "Overrated" (which I confess to using more than I should) is really just an excuse for dismissive writing -- which, ironically enough, is overrated. It's rather hip to dismiss albums like "Nevermind" as overrated, and the Pixies/Mudhoney comparisons are inevitable (what, no Melvins or Vaselines references), they miss the point. Even Cobain conceded in interviews they thought "Smells Like Teen Spirit" sounded like a Pixies tune. But you simply have to appreciate its quality on its own merits -- influences aside -- as well as its pop-cultural relevance. Like a lot of people (and someone a bit older than the average fan), I remember hearing the album and just being awestruck. Sure it was the band's "accessible" album, but it is also filled with razor-sharp songwriting (Cobain's "underrated" in this department) and indelible guitar moments as well as confirming Dave Grohl as a kick-ass drummer. “Overrated” (which I confess to using more than I should) is really just an excuse for dismissive writing — which, ironically enough, is overrated.
It’s rather hip to dismiss albums like “Nevermind” as overrated, and the Pixies/Mudhoney comparisons are inevitable (what, no Melvins or Vaselines references), they miss the point. Even Cobain conceded in interviews they thought “Smells Like Teen Spirit” sounded like a Pixies tune. But you simply have to appreciate its quality on its own merits — influences aside — as well as its pop-cultural relevance. Like a lot of people (and someone a bit older than the average fan), I remember hearing the album and just being awestruck. Sure it was the band’s “accessible” album, but it is also filled with razor-sharp songwriting (Cobain’s “underrated” in this department) and indelible guitar moments as well as confirming Dave Grohl as a kick-ass drummer.

]]> By: hot-tub http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-127 hot-tub Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:30:05 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/#comment-127 I'm coming back to apologize to Corey. Sorry I cussed you out for calling me a dumbass. I should've just been the better man, but my anger got the best of me. I still think you're wrong though. But that's my opinion, just as you have your own...ugh. I’m coming back to apologize to Corey. Sorry I cussed you out for calling me a dumbass. I should’ve just been the better man, but my anger got the best of me. I still think you’re wrong though. But that’s my opinion, just as you have your own…ugh.

]]> By: Robert Morton http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-125 Robert Morton Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:02:44 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/#comment-125 Andy--much as it pains me to say it, you correct. I akshully not read real much. I wouldn't call it "loathing" so much as "fatigue," btw. Andy–much as it pains me to say it, you correct. I akshully not read real much.

I wouldn’t call it “loathing” so much as “fatigue,” btw.

]]> By: Andisheh Nouraee http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-117 Andisheh Nouraee Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:15:31 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/#comment-117 Robert Morton- You no read so good. I never said anything about the quality of the Arctic Monkeys music. My sole assertion was that Corey is mistaken when he asserts that the Arctic Monkeys are experiencing a critical or popular backlash. They're recordings and concerts are still selling well, and the British press (both the music press and the music writers in the regular press) are still slobbering on them. Carry on with your loathing now. Hugs, Andy Robert Morton-

You no read so good.

I never said anything about the quality of the Arctic Monkeys music.

My sole assertion was that Corey is mistaken when he asserts that the Arctic Monkeys are experiencing a critical or popular backlash. They’re recordings and concerts are still selling well, and the British press (both the music press and the music writers in the regular press) are still slobbering on them.

Carry on with your loathing now.

Hugs,
Andy

]]> By: Kelley Warner http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-102 Kelley Warner Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:18:18 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/#comment-102 I was slightly in agreeance with a couple of those albums mentioned, though not for any of the same reasons. i think you're one of those pretentious scenesters who has such a jilted and cocky perspective on music that you can't take time to look past first impressions. sure some of your statements about certain albums might hold up to a casual listener...but you have to remember that bands are creating music for a certain group of people with whom they share relatively similar musical tastes. if you don't dig on an album the first few timesyou hear it then you tend to rationalize reasons for not liking it. but many of the albums you mentioned, i know, have found their ways into the culture of the alternative children of the 80's/90's. even the Wall by pink floyd was ground breaking at the time for showing what a band could accomplish creatively when faced with the ability (funds) to do so. and as far as getting a point across (which is, i will say from being a musician, the most important thing) , pink floyd has surpassed all other bands with few exceptions (stones, beatles, etc). the beauty part of this is that i love to see that people like you do put your thoughts into these neat little blogs so i can identify you and justify my own statements later. open your ears man. I was slightly in agreeance with a couple of those albums mentioned, though not for any of the same reasons.
i think you’re one of those pretentious scenesters who has such a jilted and cocky perspective on music that you can’t take time to look past first impressions. sure some of your statements about certain albums might hold up to a casual listener…but you have to remember that bands are creating music for a certain group of people with whom they share relatively similar musical tastes. if you don’t dig on an album the first few timesyou hear it then you tend to rationalize reasons for not liking it. but many of the albums you mentioned, i know, have found their ways into the culture of the alternative children of the 80’s/90’s. even the Wall by pink floyd was ground breaking at the time for showing what a band could accomplish creatively when faced with the ability (funds) to do so. and as far as getting a point across (which is, i will say from being a musician, the most important thing) , pink floyd has surpassed all other bands with few exceptions (stones, beatles, etc). the beauty part of this is that i love to see that people like you do put your thoughts into these neat little blogs so i can identify you and justify my own statements later. open your ears man.

]]> By: Brian Gilton http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-100 Brian Gilton Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:59:27 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/#comment-100 The Wall's verbose in context, maybe, to the entire Floyd catalog, but universally speaking, its contributions to the rock and record industry justify the means. Floyd represents, just as The Beatles did, a moment in time; The Wall epitomizes the high-water mark for progressivism's beginning--the 70s--when an enormous "concept" album could be concieved and, to boot, sell like hotcakes. If Floyd is or ever was "bloated and self-important" (which could be said about ANY band you don't like that tacked three more songs than you wanted on their album) they defined it. Thank goodness it was them and, as Dale notes, not those assholes from Styx. The Wall’s verbose in context, maybe, to the entire Floyd catalog, but universally speaking, its contributions to the rock and record industry justify the means. Floyd represents, just as The Beatles did, a moment in time; The Wall epitomizes the high-water mark for progressivism’s beginning–the 70s–when an enormous “concept” album could be concieved and, to boot, sell like hotcakes. If Floyd is or ever was “bloated and self-important” (which could be said about ANY band you don’t like that tacked three more songs than you wanted on their album) they defined it. Thank goodness it was them and, as Dale notes, not those assholes from Styx.

]]> By: Robert Morton http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-94 Robert Morton Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:04:06 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/#comment-94 Andy's logic is faulty (no surprise there): Just because millions of Brits love the Arctic Monkeys doesn't make them good--they like Blur and Madonna over there, too. 'Nuff said. Still, these are easy targets, especially for a blog associated with an alt weekly. You want to look brave? Deflate a paper tiger like Pavement or Slint or any of the moronic rappers the ATL's so damn proud of, like Killer Mike or Gucci Mane or Yung Jock Itch or whoever the hell it is this week. Seriously, what hath OutKast and T.I. wrought? Andy’s logic is faulty (no surprise there): Just because millions of Brits love the Arctic Monkeys doesn’t make them good–they like Blur and Madonna over there, too. ‘Nuff said. Still, these are easy targets, especially for a blog associated with an alt weekly. You want to look brave? Deflate a paper tiger like Pavement or Slint or any of the moronic rappers the ATL’s so damn proud of, like Killer Mike or Gucci Mane or Yung Jock Itch or whoever the hell it is this week. Seriously, what hath OutKast and T.I. wrought?

]]> By: John Thorns http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-91 John Thorns Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:33:10 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/#comment-91 What does overrated mean, anyway? It's a meaningless cliche. And how many album productions has Corey Licht been a part of? What does overrated mean, anyway? It’s a meaningless cliche.

And how many album productions has Corey Licht been a part of?

]]> By: Andisheh Nouraee http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-89 Andisheh Nouraee Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:04:39 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2007/07/27/the-most-overrated-albums-part-i/#comment-89 Arctic Monkeys shit-storm of backlash? Love them or hate them, they're still critically and popularly adored in the UK. They just headlined both nights of a two-day festival in Manchester, playing to 110K people. Arctic Monkeys shit-storm of backlash?

Love them or hate them, they’re still critically and popularly adored in the UK. They just headlined both nights of a two-day festival in Manchester, playing to 110K people.

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