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	<title>Comments on: No one wins at Apache&#8217;s final Mic Club</title>
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		<title>By: Manny</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2008/03/21/no-one-wins-at-apaches-final-mic-club/comment-page-1/#comment-18692</link>
		<dc:creator>Manny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Points... Take notes... But consider this Did You know about Hip Hop at Apache before MIC CLUB? 4Kings Ent. has been in the Apache Cafe since day one. And came in there with a Rep for holding down Underground Hip Hop in Atlanta. Everyone also forgets that DJ OX was a partner in 4Kings Ent. with Dres. He was Dres\\\&#039;s partner not Asa\\\&#039;s. And like it or not If You put in good work You should get a Raise. and Not just Dres, The Band, The DJ\\\&#039;s, the Sound &amp; Security. But if the Club is making Money off the Bar &amp; Door and the Promoter is just getting it off the Door. That only works for so long. 4Kings signed the deal granted but my guess is when it came time to ask for More money somebody was being greedy. And the Economics of the situation in terms of who made out with more overall point in the direction of the Venue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Points&#8230; Take notes&#8230; But consider this Did You know about Hip Hop at Apache before MIC CLUB? 4Kings Ent. has been in the Apache Cafe since day one. And came in there with a Rep for holding down Underground Hip Hop in Atlanta. Everyone also forgets that DJ OX was a partner in 4Kings Ent. with Dres. He was Dres\\\&#8217;s partner not Asa\\\&#8217;s. And like it or not If You put in good work You should get a Raise. and Not just Dres, The Band, The DJ\\\&#8217;s, the Sound &amp; Security. But if the Club is making Money off the Bar &amp; Door and the Promoter is just getting it off the Door. That only works for so long. 4Kings signed the deal granted but my guess is when it came time to ask for More money somebody was being greedy. And the Economics of the situation in terms of who made out with more overall point in the direction of the Venue.</p>
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		<title>By: u take notes</title>
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		<dc:creator>u take notes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gang mentality working here.  while the host was good it would never have gone down without Apache.  Apache should have at least half the friggin credit for what was built.  are you kiddin me?  apache is one of the best spots in town.  i&#039;ve seen some of the most amazing shows there that had nothing to do with tues night.  there are obviously reasons that it ended that we just don&#039;t know.  everbody assumes that dres was owed something here.  was he held hostage or sumthing.  wasn&#039;t it dres that threw the first stone here?  w/o mic club we&quot;ll survuve, but w/o apache the city would be far less cool.  they&#039;ll come with some more hot sh*t...watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gang mentality working here.  while the host was good it would never have gone down without Apache.  Apache should have at least half the friggin credit for what was built.  are you kiddin me?  apache is one of the best spots in town.  i&#8217;ve seen some of the most amazing shows there that had nothing to do with tues night.  there are obviously reasons that it ended that we just don&#8217;t know.  everbody assumes that dres was owed something here.  was he held hostage or sumthing.  wasn&#8217;t it dres that threw the first stone here?  w/o mic club we&#8221;ll survuve, but w/o apache the city would be far less cool.  they&#8217;ll come with some more hot sh*t&#8230;watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Manny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the MIC CLUB Final Show last Tuesday. And I watched in Horror... If You were at a job for over 6 Years made Your employer a lot of Money and asked for a raise and You got a dollar extra after all of that time.... What would You do? I\\\&#039;m suprised that He didn\\\&#039;t leave sooner!!! I mean DAMN!! You people act like he shouldn\\\&#039;t have asked for anything!! I\\\&#039;ve seen Dres do some Great things and I\\\&#039;ve seen him do some really Fucked up Shit, but guess what he\\\&#039;s Human!!! I won\\\&#039;t say that Asa was robbing him but to offer a raise with stipulations is the equivalent of not giving a Raise &amp; that\\\&#039;s FUCKED UP on Asa\\\&#039;s part!! During that entire exchange the Reporter forgot to mention that Dres had made 3 other offers. She was there as was I and she forgot that!? who goes into a negotiation with one offer. The standard is 100% of the Door or very close to it. Wesley mentioned that someone will step in to fill the void of Mic Club. I doubt it, although I know someone will try, that\\\&#039;s a pretty impressive streak. Good luck with that, whomever decides to jump in that Grave. The thing that gets me about all of the backlash with the MIC CLUB situation at Apache is that Promoters weren\\\&#039;t even thinking about Apache Cafe or a Live Hip Hop Event on a Tuesday before 4Kings got there. Now all of a sudden everybody wants to get in there because it\\\&#039;s already been broken in by 4Kings. Dres is a hell of a Host and does a Great Job given what He had to work with. Jacinta mentioned that the MC\\\&#039;s were \\</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the MIC CLUB Final Show last Tuesday. And I watched in Horror&#8230; If You were at a job for over 6 Years made Your employer a lot of Money and asked for a raise and You got a dollar extra after all of that time&#8230;. What would You do? I\\\&#8217;m suprised that He didn\\\&#8217;t leave sooner!!! I mean DAMN!! You people act like he shouldn\\\&#8217;t have asked for anything!! I\\\&#8217;ve seen Dres do some Great things and I\\\&#8217;ve seen him do some really Fucked up Shit, but guess what he\\\&#8217;s Human!!! I won\\\&#8217;t say that Asa was robbing him but to offer a raise with stipulations is the equivalent of not giving a Raise &amp; that\\\&#8217;s FUCKED UP on Asa\\\&#8217;s part!! During that entire exchange the Reporter forgot to mention that Dres had made 3 other offers. She was there as was I and she forgot that!? who goes into a negotiation with one offer. The standard is 100% of the Door or very close to it. Wesley mentioned that someone will step in to fill the void of Mic Club. I doubt it, although I know someone will try, that\\\&#8217;s a pretty impressive streak. Good luck with that, whomever decides to jump in that Grave. The thing that gets me about all of the backlash with the MIC CLUB situation at Apache is that Promoters weren\\\&#8217;t even thinking about Apache Cafe or a Live Hip Hop Event on a Tuesday before 4Kings got there. Now all of a sudden everybody wants to get in there because it\\\&#8217;s already been broken in by 4Kings. Dres is a hell of a Host and does a Great Job given what He had to work with. Jacinta mentioned that the MC\\\&#8217;s were \\</p>
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		<title>By: wesley what what</title>
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		<dc:creator>wesley what what</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at least one person in this conflict is a grade A moron with an over-inflated ego.  

no worries - someone else will step in to fill the void with a quickness and mic club will just be a faint memory.

and such is progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at least one person in this conflict is a grade A moron with an over-inflated ego.  </p>
<p>no worries &#8211; someone else will step in to fill the void with a quickness and mic club will just be a faint memory.</p>
<p>and such is progress.</p>
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		<title>By: RAP,SING OR DANCE BATTLES</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAP,SING OR DANCE BATTLES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REGISTER@  www.thebogartemg.com/registration.html presents RAP,SING OR DANCE. BATTLES win money and prizes/rep your hood show ya skills visit www.clubbogard.com and set-up a free profile.www.thebogartemg.com thanks, C.L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REGISTER@  <a href="http://www.thebogartemg.com/registration.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebogartemg.com/registration.html</a> presents RAP,SING OR DANCE. BATTLES win money and prizes/rep your hood show ya skills visit <a href="http://www.clubbogard.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.clubbogard.com</a> and set-up a free profile.www.thebogartemg.com thanks, C.L</p>
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		<title>By: Leila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s such a bummer. and basically right before our cover on atl&#039;s hip-hop scene and community. had a writer talk to both of them and still can&#039;t figure out why we had to loose mic club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s such a bummer. and basically right before our cover on atl&#8217;s hip-hop scene and community. had a writer talk to both of them and still can&#8217;t figure out why we had to loose mic club.</p>
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