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	<title>Comments on: Concert review: Ryan Adams redeems himself in Atlanta</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katie,

I consider writing about music to be part of a conversation. For me, it’s all about continuing the conversation that the music started. When I love the music, sometimes it’s just not enough for me to simply listen. I don’t play (very well), and I prefer to read, write, or just talk about it. So yes, I want my writing to be taken seriously, but as seriously as you would take a passionate and well informed friend. Sometimes it’s all facts mixed with opinion, and sometimes the passion and curiosity lead the way.  

When I’m making an unfounded, but not that out the question accusation, I make my judgment as to whether to include it in a published piece. In this case I decided to include it with a disclaimer. I knew I wanted to say something about my thoughts on his sobriety because it was part of the conversation I was having with friends after the show. His behavior at his two most recent shows was something worth noting. So, I noted.  I can’t say if I normally do this, but I will say that when I do, I’ll be responsible about it. And while I don’t know what Mr. Adams did backstage, I do know he’s a recovering addict (see link in above post). It’s part of the pain that makes me get so much out of his music.  

Thanks for the suggestion about doing research. This is actually how I came to make the speculative comments at the end of the review. It’s also how I double checked all the dates and album references. When I take the leap toward speculation, I’ll make sure the reader knows. I don’t think it was out of the line or irresponsible. I try and stay above tabloid level gossip, but let’s be honest about it, it’s part of the conversation. I do think there’s a way to approach “gossip” in a responsible manner. If done right, it can capture the honest reaction of the listener and lead to enlightening conversation. In this case, I was reminded of his other medical condition and I also found myself defending my writing.  

Just trying to get the conversation beyond: “So and So Rocks!” Because to me, that is enjoyable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie,</p>
<p>I consider writing about music to be part of a conversation. For me, it’s all about continuing the conversation that the music started. When I love the music, sometimes it’s just not enough for me to simply listen. I don’t play (very well), and I prefer to read, write, or just talk about it. So yes, I want my writing to be taken seriously, but as seriously as you would take a passionate and well informed friend. Sometimes it’s all facts mixed with opinion, and sometimes the passion and curiosity lead the way.  </p>
<p>When I’m making an unfounded, but not that out the question accusation, I make my judgment as to whether to include it in a published piece. In this case I decided to include it with a disclaimer. I knew I wanted to say something about my thoughts on his sobriety because it was part of the conversation I was having with friends after the show. His behavior at his two most recent shows was something worth noting. So, I noted.  I can’t say if I normally do this, but I will say that when I do, I’ll be responsible about it. And while I don’t know what Mr. Adams did backstage, I do know he’s a recovering addict (see link in above post). It’s part of the pain that makes me get so much out of his music.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the suggestion about doing research. This is actually how I came to make the speculative comments at the end of the review. It’s also how I double checked all the dates and album references. When I take the leap toward speculation, I’ll make sure the reader knows. I don’t think it was out of the line or irresponsible. I try and stay above tabloid level gossip, but let’s be honest about it, it’s part of the conversation. I do think there’s a way to approach “gossip” in a responsible manner. If done right, it can capture the honest reaction of the listener and lead to enlightening conversation. In this case, I was reminded of his other medical condition and I also found myself defending my writing.  </p>
<p>Just trying to get the conversation beyond: “So and So Rocks!” Because to me, that is enjoyable.</p>
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		<title>By: edgewood adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgewood adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking someone&#039;s music sucks does not make me an angry person.  I am a snobby asshole but not an angry one.  But Ryan Adams still sucks.  See ya at the Connor Oberst show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking someone&#8217;s music sucks does not make me an angry person.  I am a snobby asshole but not an angry one.  But Ryan Adams still sucks.  See ya at the Connor Oberst show.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear edgewood adam-did you acutally go to the show? You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I am not a sorority girl and am not connected to any scene, yet am a huge fan of the music of Ryan Adams, and am entitled to my opinion as well. I am sorry you are so angry.  

dear Mr. Gerber-do you normally throw ignorant speculations into your writing? Do you go by the pen name Perez Hilton sometimes? I suggest you do your background research on a musician before writing a piece, whereas your writing might be taken seriously and viewed as intelligent, not ignorant. Unless you prefer to be known as an ignorant writer.  your choice. 

dear Billy Shears-it was indeed advertised ahead of time as &quot;blue cave&quot;, which refers to an acoustic show. 

dear Elizabeth-thank you for your comments.  Ryan Adams ROCKS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear edgewood adam-did you acutally go to the show? You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I am not a sorority girl and am not connected to any scene, yet am a huge fan of the music of Ryan Adams, and am entitled to my opinion as well. I am sorry you are so angry.  </p>
<p>dear Mr. Gerber-do you normally throw ignorant speculations into your writing? Do you go by the pen name Perez Hilton sometimes? I suggest you do your background research on a musician before writing a piece, whereas your writing might be taken seriously and viewed as intelligent, not ignorant. Unless you prefer to be known as an ignorant writer.  your choice. </p>
<p>dear Billy Shears-it was indeed advertised ahead of time as &#8220;blue cave&#8221;, which refers to an acoustic show. </p>
<p>dear Elizabeth-thank you for your comments.  Ryan Adams ROCKS!</p>
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		<title>By: edgewood adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgewood adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan Adams makes boring crappy music for pseudo music fans.  It is for sorority girls that want to listen to indie rock and feel connected to a scene.  There is no reason to debate whether the show sucked because it was acoustic.  It would have sucked probably even more if it was electric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Adams makes boring crappy music for pseudo music fans.  It is for sorority girls that want to listen to indie rock and feel connected to a scene.  There is no reason to debate whether the show sucked because it was acoustic.  It would have sucked probably even more if it was electric.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there, this is Mr. Gerber. Just to clarify, I did not infer, I ignorantly speculated.  This is how a prefaced those closing thoughts. I&#039;m surprised you were shocked by the ignorance of something that was introduced as being ignorant. 

Moving on, thanks for the info about Meniere’s disease. It sounds like a performing musician’s worst nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, this is Mr. Gerber. Just to clarify, I did not infer, I ignorantly speculated.  This is how a prefaced those closing thoughts. I&#8217;m surprised you were shocked by the ignorance of something that was introduced as being ignorant. </p>
<p>Moving on, thanks for the info about Meniere’s disease. It sounds like a performing musician’s worst nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am shocked at the plethora of ignorance abounding in this article/review.  Fair enough if some of you commenters did not enjoy the show.  But rest assure the only reason Ryan went back stage is because he is suffering with Meniere&#039;s Disease, which causes hearing problems, dizziness, and nausea/vomiting.  He is trying to deal with this disease and at the same time honor his commitments.

Your inference about the &quot;falling off the wagon&quot; is really uncalled for, Mr. Gerber.  And all the talk about &quot;dry drunk&quot; or whatever you are going on about.   Are you an interventionist in your spare time?  Sheesh.

They put a March 8th show in there because there was the cancellation of the Langerado Festival in Miami and some dates to fill...It is a shame that the fact it was acoustic was not properly advertised.  It certainly was billed as such on the fan based web site Ryan Adams and The Cardinals endorse:  RAA.  In any case, yes, the tour wraps for good in Atlanta March 20th at the Fox.  It will be electric.   And newly married Mr. Adams will, indeed, be totally sober.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am shocked at the plethora of ignorance abounding in this article/review.  Fair enough if some of you commenters did not enjoy the show.  But rest assure the only reason Ryan went back stage is because he is suffering with Meniere&#8217;s Disease, which causes hearing problems, dizziness, and nausea/vomiting.  He is trying to deal with this disease and at the same time honor his commitments.</p>
<p>Your inference about the &#8220;falling off the wagon&#8221; is really uncalled for, Mr. Gerber.  And all the talk about &#8220;dry drunk&#8221; or whatever you are going on about.   Are you an interventionist in your spare time?  Sheesh.</p>
<p>They put a March 8th show in there because there was the cancellation of the Langerado Festival in Miami and some dates to fill&#8230;It is a shame that the fact it was acoustic was not properly advertised.  It certainly was billed as such on the fan based web site Ryan Adams and The Cardinals endorse:  RAA.  In any case, yes, the tour wraps for good in Atlanta March 20th at the Fox.  It will be electric.   And newly married Mr. Adams will, indeed, be totally sober.</p>
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		<title>By: billy shears</title>
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		<dc:creator>billy shears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, it&#039;s his mea culpa show. hopefully it&#039;s electric. if you went to that show and held on to your ticket, you can get in for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, it&#8217;s his mea culpa show. hopefully it&#8217;s electric. if you went to that show and held on to your ticket, you can get in for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Confused fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Confused fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused. Wasn&#039;t he scheduled to play with the Cardinals at the Fox on March 20? Did I miss something? Is that show still on? The Fox website has it advertised. Seems weird to have two shows so close together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused. Wasn&#8217;t he scheduled to play with the Cardinals at the Fox on March 20? Did I miss something? Is that show still on? The Fox website has it advertised. Seems weird to have two shows so close together.</p>
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		<title>By: billy shears</title>
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		<dc:creator>billy shears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the show was NOT advertised as an acoustic show on the livenation ticket site. and for some reason, the show wasn&#039;t even advertised on the ticketmaster website at all. i only found out about it from the livenation weekly emailer. anyway, my friend in jersey saw ryan adams a few days before he played the tabernacle and he saw an electric show. i would have never purchased tickets if i had known that the show was all acoustic. oh well. there&#039;s always the boss in april for a proper rock show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the show was NOT advertised as an acoustic show on the livenation ticket site. and for some reason, the show wasn&#8217;t even advertised on the ticketmaster website at all. i only found out about it from the livenation weekly emailer. anyway, my friend in jersey saw ryan adams a few days before he played the tabernacle and he saw an electric show. i would have never purchased tickets if i had known that the show was all acoustic. oh well. there&#8217;s always the boss in april for a proper rock show.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the above person, the show was advertised as an acoustic show, so um, big surprise that it was one.
To the speculation on RA&#039;s sobriety, I&#039;m thinking maybe the fact that these are the last shows he&#039;s doing for a while coupled with the fact that he just got married, may have something to do with his mood, rather than drugs or booze. Besides, I&#039;ve seen him
when booze and drugs were involved and the last several shows he doesn&#039;t seem like he was then at all. I&#039;m not a big fan of music reviews that involve unfounded gossip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the above person, the show was advertised as an acoustic show, so um, big surprise that it was one.<br />
To the speculation on RA&#8217;s sobriety, I&#8217;m thinking maybe the fact that these are the last shows he&#8217;s doing for a while coupled with the fact that he just got married, may have something to do with his mood, rather than drugs or booze. Besides, I&#8217;ve seen him<br />
when booze and drugs were involved and the last several shows he doesn&#8217;t seem like he was then at all. I&#8217;m not a big fan of music reviews that involve unfounded gossip.</p>
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