Comments on: What’s next for Vick and the Falcons? http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/ Atlanta news and views, one slice at a time Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:08:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Drunk man in the cheap seats http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/comment-page-1/#comment-3854 Drunk man in the cheap seats Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:48:32 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/#comment-3854 Money talks and everything else walks, and Vick's product endorsements are scurrying out the door like rats off a sinking ship. "dpb" starts out by saying he's "probably guilty" but then chides others for assuming, based on a scathing federal indictment and past behavior, that he is in fact guilty. When his homeboyz start flipping for lenient sentences it's all over but the orange jumpsuit. I hate saying that - I had high hopes for a Petrino/Vick season but Vick obviously has other priorities in his life that have intruded on his professional life, and happen to be completely incompatible. You make your choices and you take the consequences. It's too bad that he's having to learn this the hard way, but then it's hard to have much sympathy for someone as twisted as he is after having been handed the world on a platter in the form of $13mil/year + endorsements. I do feel bad for him because I don't think he had the type of upbringing that would prepare him with the type of maturity and world experience that he would need for the professional football world, and obviously being a heralded college football player isn't so much "real world" either. Money talks and everything else walks, and Vick’s product endorsements are scurrying out the door like rats off a sinking ship. “dpb” starts out by saying he’s “probably guilty” but then chides others for assuming, based on a scathing federal indictment and past behavior, that he is in fact guilty. When his homeboyz start flipping for lenient sentences it’s all over but the orange jumpsuit. I hate saying that – I had high hopes for a Petrino/Vick season but Vick obviously has other priorities in his life that have intruded on his professional life, and happen to be completely incompatible. You make your choices and you take the consequences. It’s too bad that he’s having to learn this the hard way, but then it’s hard to have much sympathy for someone as twisted as he is after having been handed the world on a platter in the form of $13mil/year + endorsements. I do feel bad for him because I don’t think he had the type of upbringing that would prepare him with the type of maturity and world experience that he would need for the professional football world, and obviously being a heralded college football player isn’t so much “real world” either.

]]> By: Dale http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/comment-page-1/#comment-3838 Dale Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:43:38 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/#comment-3838 BTW, the NFL suspends players for repeated problems with law enforcement and offensive public behavior (just ask Pac Man Jones). this is Vick's third offense (bird flip, water bottle with pot compartment). BTW, the NFL suspends players for repeated problems with law enforcement and offensive public behavior (just ask Pac Man Jones). this is Vick’s third offense (bird flip, water bottle with pot compartment).

]]> By: Dale http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/comment-page-1/#comment-3837 Dale Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:41:09 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/#comment-3837 Duke was because of an over zealous prosecutor facing re-election playing the race card for votes. A Federal indictment resembles a local DA indictment the way a hand grenade resembles a boiled egg. It isn't petty to look at a history of thuggish behaviour and disregard for the law before coming to a conclusion that he is probably guilty. It's called intelligent. I may be wrong, but mountains of evidence and Vick's character tell me i am not. Duke was because of an over zealous prosecutor facing re-election playing the race card for votes. A Federal indictment resembles a local DA indictment the way a hand grenade resembles a boiled egg.

It isn’t petty to look at a history of thuggish behaviour and disregard for the law before coming to a conclusion that he is probably guilty. It’s called intelligent.

I may be wrong, but mountains of evidence and Vick’s character tell me i am not.

]]> By: dpb http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/comment-page-1/#comment-3804 dpb Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:33:09 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/#comment-3804 Vick is probably guilty but I find it amusing that so many people are so quick to jump to judgment before a verdict has been found. Has the Duke case taught not anyone anything? Criminally, Vick is innocent up until the day a verdict comes in that says otherwise. Punishing him because of this indictment, such as is suggested by the commenters above, only shows their ignorance. If he's guilty, throw the book at him. Until then, you can't assume he's guilty. That's just petty. Vick is probably guilty but I find it amusing that so many people are so quick to jump to judgment before a verdict has been found. Has the Duke case taught not anyone anything? Criminally, Vick is innocent up until the day a verdict comes in that says otherwise. Punishing him because of this indictment, such as is suggested by the commenters above, only shows their ignorance.

If he’s guilty, throw the book at him. Until then, you can’t assume he’s guilty. That’s just petty.

]]> By: Drunk man in the cheap seats http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/comment-page-1/#comment-3784 Drunk man in the cheap seats Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:03:12 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/#comment-3784 Once the toast of the town, now Vick's just toast. And deservedly so. The allegations in the indictment are as good as a conviction as far as Vick's football career goes. There is no divorcing yourself from a house that you own, and when 50+ dog corpses are exhumed from the property that you own and show signs of execution, strangulation, drowning and blunt force trauma, it doesn't really matter if you were holding the wires or just writing the checks (or handing off the backpacks full of cash as the case may be). The old saying birds of a feather flock together, and no slick lawyer will be able to wash the stink of extreme animal abuse off of #7 - no way. I hope that Arthur Blank's mailbox is overflowing with letters urging him to dump this thug - I've sent mine. I believe Blank is a class guy and will do the classy thing but he didn't get rich making financially bad moves, and signing Vick to such a sweetheart deal clearly was one. As a season ticket holder I will boycott the games if Vick plays. I can watch him get booed from the really cheap seat - my comfy leather couch planted in front of an HD screen. Once the toast of the town, now Vick’s just toast. And deservedly so.

The allegations in the indictment are as good as a conviction as far as Vick’s football career goes. There is no divorcing yourself from a house that you own, and when 50+ dog corpses are exhumed from the property that you own and show signs of execution, strangulation, drowning and blunt force trauma, it doesn’t really matter if you were holding the wires or just writing the checks (or handing off the backpacks full of cash as the case may be). The old saying birds of a feather flock together, and no slick lawyer will be able to wash the stink of extreme animal abuse off of #7 – no way.

I hope that Arthur Blank’s mailbox is overflowing with letters urging him to dump this thug – I’ve sent mine. I believe Blank is a class guy and will do the classy thing but he didn’t get rich making financially bad moves, and signing Vick to such a sweetheart deal clearly was one.

As a season ticket holder I will boycott the games if Vick plays. I can watch him get booed from the really cheap seat – my comfy leather couch planted in front of an HD screen.

]]> By: Kathryn Page http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/comment-page-1/#comment-3767 Kathryn Page Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:11:31 +0000 http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2007/07/18/whats-next-for-vick-and-the-falcons/#comment-3767 Blank, Goodell, and Nike ... all of them should not only "cut their losses" but also take a principled stand against this gruesome, criminal activity. The cruelty aspect alone is horrific enough (take one look at a "bait dog," stolen out of a suburban back yard and used for training purposes, if you don't believe me), but dogfighting carries with it other criminal activities, including drugs, guns, and prostitution. Moreover, these breeding operations are a danger to communities all over the country, as stories of maulings abound. I don't advocate a breed ban (I own a pit of the pet variety), but pit bull fighting must be stopped. Now. Make Vicks a huge public example. Blank, Goodell, and Nike … all of them should not only “cut their losses” but also take a principled stand against this gruesome, criminal activity. The cruelty aspect alone is horrific enough (take one look at a “bait dog,” stolen out of a suburban back yard and used for training purposes, if you don’t believe me), but dogfighting carries with it other criminal activities, including drugs, guns, and prostitution. Moreover, these breeding operations are a danger to communities all over the country, as stories of maulings abound. I don’t advocate a breed ban (I own a pit of the pet variety), but pit bull fighting must be stopped. Now.

Make Vicks a huge public example.

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