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	<title>Comments on: Blogger: Police shadow Critical Mass bike ride</title>
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		<title>By: Tru Street Riderz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2008/06/28/blogger-police-shadow-critical-mass-bike-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-109065</link>
		<dc:creator>Tru Street Riderz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey!
  hope all is well with you riderz. I have found after riding in different countries that the the wonderful USA is  the only place that dont respect riderz as a whole. The riderz are supposed to fall 4th in line first,to cars,then to motor cycles,then to pedestrians. Now how i see it is that everyone has there job to do. CAUTION is the key here for everyone. car drivers you fear BIG RIGGS and suv&#039;s think what its like for bike riderz when it comes to you? see the only people who i have a problem with is the pedestrains who again&quot;WHO BELIEVE&quot; that they dont have to obey any laws they step off the curbs wont even look or will look you in the face and see your in full motion and just walk out in front of you. now caution is the key, i dont take anyone for granted and i think all riderz should be cautiously agressive because no one respects the bike rider not even those walking. For me personally i trust no one so i will ride like the wind but obey common  since laws never expecting others to use common sense.so guy&#039;s and gal&#039;s think! before you ride. &quot;critical mass&quot; this is my first ever hearing of it but i love it political or not. Bikers should be able to ride in group and get respect just like traffic jams every day twice a day in every major and minor city.i dont believe in caos but i do believe in freedom to ride i served this country and was injured doing so,and i dont think that those who over look simple freedoms should do so even if there uncomfortable with them. Ride safe share the road and stop crying about crap and fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey!<br />
  hope all is well with you riderz. I have found after riding in different countries that the the wonderful USA is  the only place that dont respect riderz as a whole. The riderz are supposed to fall 4th in line first,to cars,then to motor cycles,then to pedestrians. Now how i see it is that everyone has there job to do. CAUTION is the key here for everyone. car drivers you fear BIG RIGGS and suv&#8217;s think what its like for bike riderz when it comes to you? see the only people who i have a problem with is the pedestrains who again&#8221;WHO BELIEVE&#8221; that they dont have to obey any laws they step off the curbs wont even look or will look you in the face and see your in full motion and just walk out in front of you. now caution is the key, i dont take anyone for granted and i think all riderz should be cautiously agressive because no one respects the bike rider not even those walking. For me personally i trust no one so i will ride like the wind but obey common  since laws never expecting others to use common sense.so guy&#8217;s and gal&#8217;s think! before you ride. &#8220;critical mass&#8221; this is my first ever hearing of it but i love it political or not. Bikers should be able to ride in group and get respect just like traffic jams every day twice a day in every major and minor city.i dont believe in caos but i do believe in freedom to ride i served this country and was injured doing so,and i dont think that those who over look simple freedoms should do so even if there uncomfortable with them. Ride safe share the road and stop crying about crap and fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lee Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Lee Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I know is I came upon two tastefully clad cyclers on Bouldercrest in East Atlanta on Saturday, riding side-by-side instead of in single file and almost caused a calamity when I tried to pass them. I couldn&#039;t help but laugh when the outer cyclist, clearly feeling comfortable as a traffic cop and not compelled to fall into single file, waved me past him when the coast was clear. Thanks, officer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know is I came upon two tastefully clad cyclers on Bouldercrest in East Atlanta on Saturday, riding side-by-side instead of in single file and almost caused a calamity when I tried to pass them. I couldn&#8217;t help but laugh when the outer cyclist, clearly feeling comfortable as a traffic cop and not compelled to fall into single file, waved me past him when the coast was clear. Thanks, officer!</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darin&#039;s reaction is widely held by the general public and by myself. I first heard of Critical Mass as a guerilla group who felt that the activism of snarling San Francisco traffic would help them draw media attention for cycling issues. 

Critical Mass is problematic as a vehicle of accomplishing public acceptance of bikes on the road and making gains in infrastructure for us because of the VERY negative impression they leave on the genreal, IE voting, public.

BTW, I am an avid road and mountian biking addict (temporarily in remission, except for iding my single around Midtown) with about 15 years on the saddle and thousands of miles on the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darin&#8217;s reaction is widely held by the general public and by myself. I first heard of Critical Mass as a guerilla group who felt that the activism of snarling San Francisco traffic would help them draw media attention for cycling issues. </p>
<p>Critical Mass is problematic as a vehicle of accomplishing public acceptance of bikes on the road and making gains in infrastructure for us because of the VERY negative impression they leave on the genreal, IE voting, public.</p>
<p>BTW, I am an avid road and mountian biking addict (temporarily in remission, except for iding my single around Midtown) with about 15 years on the saddle and thousands of miles on the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Darin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;we stick together and can’t get picked off easily by psychotic road-raging drivers.&quot; Ahh, well that I can understand. As someone who spends a great deal of time as a pedestrian in midtown, I do know the dangers of aggressive ATL drivers.

Anyway, best of luck. And if you see some cranky old dude with twisted panties trying to cross the road with his little boy, be sure to give him the right of way ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;we stick together and can’t get picked off easily by psychotic road-raging drivers.&#8221; Ahh, well that I can understand. As someone who spends a great deal of time as a pedestrian in midtown, I do know the dangers of aggressive ATL drivers.</p>
<p>Anyway, best of luck. And if you see some cranky old dude with twisted panties trying to cross the road with his little boy, be sure to give him the right of way ;)</p>
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		<title>By: shelbinator</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelbinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if it was pockets along the route, Thomas. There generally isn&#039;t a route until 2 minutes before we get on our bikes, and even then it&#039;s more about what neighborhoods in what order.  This was probably one set of police following us around and darting ahead of us whenever they could extrapolate our route.

There will be a &quot;Courteous Mass&quot; on Friday, 7/11.  Probably won&#039;t be anywhere near as many riders, but they will be observing all traffic laws and such.  We&#039;ll see if this is any better on traffic, law enforcement, and the tiny tiny senses of humor of impatient Atlanta motorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it was pockets along the route, Thomas. There generally isn&#8217;t a route until 2 minutes before we get on our bikes, and even then it&#8217;s more about what neighborhoods in what order.  This was probably one set of police following us around and darting ahead of us whenever they could extrapolate our route.</p>
<p>There will be a &#8220;Courteous Mass&#8221; on Friday, 7/11.  Probably won&#8217;t be anywhere near as many riders, but they will be observing all traffic laws and such.  We&#8217;ll see if this is any better on traffic, law enforcement, and the tiny tiny senses of humor of impatient Atlanta motorists.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Wheatley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Wheatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that a better approach would be for police to cycle along with the riders. Hell, it&#039;d probably even build relations. Having pockets of officers located along the route seems like it creates more of an &quot;us vs. them&quot; mentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that a better approach would be for police to cycle along with the riders. Hell, it&#8217;d probably even build relations. Having pockets of officers located along the route seems like it creates more of an &#8220;us vs. them&#8221; mentality.</p>
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		<title>By: shelbinator</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelbinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Darin, untwist your panties -- the monthly critical mass ride is probably the *safest* time we&#039;re on the road, because we stick together and can&#039;t get picked off easily by psychotic road-raging drivers.  We don&#039;t run red lights when we approach them, but if we&#039;re halfway through an intersection when the light changes, we don&#039;t stop and split up the mass.  Once cars get intermixed among portions of the mass is when things get dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Darin, untwist your panties &#8212; the monthly critical mass ride is probably the *safest* time we&#8217;re on the road, because we stick together and can&#8217;t get picked off easily by psychotic road-raging drivers.  We don&#8217;t run red lights when we approach them, but if we&#8217;re halfway through an intersection when the light changes, we don&#8217;t stop and split up the mass.  Once cars get intermixed among portions of the mass is when things get dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Darin Givens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darin Givens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So once a month a large group of people break the law and create a safety hazard for all of us en masse by blowing through red lights in the heart of Atlanta? I just hope this isn&#039;t the only time the police take action.

If one of the people ticketed was the sunofabitch bicyclist who blasted through the red light at Peachtree and 17th this Thursday evening and almost hit me and my little boy while we were pedestriatin&#039; across the road during a legal crossing signal, I say huzzah and yippee squeak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So once a month a large group of people break the law and create a safety hazard for all of us en masse by blowing through red lights in the heart of Atlanta? I just hope this isn&#8217;t the only time the police take action.</p>
<p>If one of the people ticketed was the sunofabitch bicyclist who blasted through the red light at Peachtree and 17th this Thursday evening and almost hit me and my little boy while we were pedestriatin&#8217; across the road during a legal crossing signal, I say huzzah and yippee squeak.</p>
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