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		<title>By: Ist Obama der neue Hitler? &#171; Mutti wohnt in Münster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ist Obama der neue Hitler? &#171; Mutti wohnt in Münster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] die Bahamas getraut hätte: Der mutiger Republikaner Paul Brown hat nämlich angesichts der von Obama geforderten Ausweitung eines sozialen Freiwilligendienstes mal klipp und klar die Parallelen zur NS-Ideologie aufführt: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] die Bahamas getraut hätte: Der mutiger Republikaner Paul Brown hat nämlich angesichts der von Obama geforderten Ausweitung eines sozialen Freiwilligendienstes mal klipp und klar die Parallelen zur NS-Ideologie aufführt: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Obama, the exit interview &#124; Fresh Loaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama, the exit interview &#124; Fresh Loaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Obama for America campaign just won a landslide election, but it isn&#8217;t done yet. Now it&#8217;s looking to collect information from its many supporters and donors that, I can only assume, will allow our president-elect to achieve world domination and enslave the human race. Or perhaps I&#8217;ve been listening too much to Congressman Paul Broun. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Obama for America campaign just won a landslide election, but it isn&#8217;t done yet. Now it&#8217;s looking to collect information from its many supporters and donors that, I can only assume, will allow our president-elect to achieve world domination and enslave the human race. Or perhaps I&#8217;ve been listening too much to Congressman Paul Broun. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CCH</title>
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		<dc:creator>CCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This conversation has been high-jacked by a favorite tactic of propagandists...distraction.  

How did we begin comparing the appropriateness of a writer&#039;s commentary to that of an elected official?  The inherent difference is obvious... It is possible to simply not read Creative Loafing if you disagree with the opinions expressed within, while residents of the 10th district (and the entire US) should not have to tolerate this type of sophomoric behavior from the representatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This conversation has been high-jacked by a favorite tactic of propagandists&#8230;distraction.  </p>
<p>How did we begin comparing the appropriateness of a writer&#8217;s commentary to that of an elected official?  The inherent difference is obvious&#8230; It is possible to simply not read Creative Loafing if you disagree with the opinions expressed within, while residents of the 10th district (and the entire US) should not have to tolerate this type of sophomoric behavior from the representatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Top 5 posts: Nov. 10-16 &#124; Fresh Loaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top 5 posts: Nov. 10-16 &#124; Fresh Loaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Paul Broun compares Obama to Hitler By Andisheh [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not saying they are good with money or bad with money. They are the fiscal managers that they would be in real life. 

Which is to say that there is nothing inherent with being a politician that would lead to being a poor handler of money.

Now, would you care to debate the merits of the above, or continue to post ideological platitudes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not saying they are good with money or bad with money. They are the fiscal managers that they would be in real life. </p>
<p>Which is to say that there is nothing inherent with being a politician that would lead to being a poor handler of money.</p>
<p>Now, would you care to debate the merits of the above, or continue to post ideological platitudes?</p>
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		<title>By: DaleC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaleC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t buy that politicians are bad with money?


Wow. You&#039;re right this is a pointless debate.

The Amendment only says that the raises the Representatives approve for themselves cannot become effective until the next election cycle. That Amendment really has some teeth toit, doesn&#039;t it? Given the rates of incumbency, that is not much of a control, in fact, it is laughable.

I listen to what politicians actually say and you read into it wisdom that they have never shown in the past.

Thanks for the comic relief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t buy that politicians are bad with money?</p>
<p>Wow. You&#8217;re right this is a pointless debate.</p>
<p>The Amendment only says that the raises the Representatives approve for themselves cannot become effective until the next election cycle. That Amendment really has some teeth toit, doesn&#8217;t it? Given the rates of incumbency, that is not much of a control, in fact, it is laughable.</p>
<p>I listen to what politicians actually say and you read into it wisdom that they have never shown in the past.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comic relief.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe that&#039;s not what he meant and maybe they don&#039;t (I simply don&#039;t buy that, otherwise there wouldn&#039;t be a constitutional amendment controlling congressional raises but I digress). 

However, that neither strengthens your argument nor weakens mine. There is a much lower investment required to make and operate Obama&#039;s plan than there is to do the same for an army. It is that simple and if you can&#039;t recognize that and debate that on those merits, a debate with you becomes (more) pointless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe that&#8217;s not what he meant and maybe they don&#8217;t (I simply don&#8217;t buy that, otherwise there wouldn&#8217;t be a constitutional amendment controlling congressional raises but I digress). </p>
<p>However, that neither strengthens your argument nor weakens mine. There is a much lower investment required to make and operate Obama&#8217;s plan than there is to do the same for an army. It is that simple and if you can&#8217;t recognize that and debate that on those merits, a debate with you becomes (more) pointless.</p>
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		<title>By: DaleC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaleC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed - I am sure that is exactly what he meant, despite what he actually said. After all politicians have such a deep grasp on the value of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed &#8211; I am sure that is exactly what he meant, despite what he actually said. After all politicians have such a deep grasp on the value of money.</p>
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		<title>By: John Sugg</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sugg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugene and Annoyed, you are silly people. There are two separate events. At the 2004 event featuring Horowitz, the Young Republicans most certainly did emulate the Hitler Youth in trying to physically intimidate a polite person from asking Horowitz a question. We had photos of the Young Republican acting like a Nazi thug; I didn&#039;t run one because I didn&#039;t want to give the little twerp something to preen about. That was the article I linked to above. In the 2007 appearance by Horowitz, I clearly stated that the protesters were wrong in interrupting Horowitz. In my 2007 blog post, referenced by Annoyed, I was recounting my reporting of three years earlier. There is no discrepancy between my 2004 and the Emory Wheel report of 2007 -- because they weren&#039;t about the same event.

Nothing provoked the Young Republicans in 2004, other than the truth embedded in the question asked of Horowitz. Horowitz&#039;s racism and anti-free-speech jihads have provoked people, which is what he wants so that he can cry that he&#039;s a victim. I don&#039;t think people should respond as the protesters did last year. Then again, if David Duke walked onto campus and started preaching the purity of the white race, I assume black students would be upset and likely would protest. There is little material difference in the hatred and demagoguery espoused by people like Duke and Horowitz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugene and Annoyed, you are silly people. There are two separate events. At the 2004 event featuring Horowitz, the Young Republicans most certainly did emulate the Hitler Youth in trying to physically intimidate a polite person from asking Horowitz a question. We had photos of the Young Republican acting like a Nazi thug; I didn&#8217;t run one because I didn&#8217;t want to give the little twerp something to preen about. That was the article I linked to above. In the 2007 appearance by Horowitz, I clearly stated that the protesters were wrong in interrupting Horowitz. In my 2007 blog post, referenced by Annoyed, I was recounting my reporting of three years earlier. There is no discrepancy between my 2004 and the Emory Wheel report of 2007 &#8212; because they weren&#8217;t about the same event.</p>
<p>Nothing provoked the Young Republicans in 2004, other than the truth embedded in the question asked of Horowitz. Horowitz&#8217;s racism and anti-free-speech jihads have provoked people, which is what he wants so that he can cry that he&#8217;s a victim. I don&#8217;t think people should respond as the protesters did last year. Then again, if David Duke walked onto campus and started preaching the purity of the white race, I assume black students would be upset and likely would protest. There is little material difference in the hatred and demagoguery espoused by people like Duke and Horowitz.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A better question is, exactly &#039;how&#039; would Obama make them as powerful, strong and well funded as the military? Does that mean the Peace Corps and State Department will have a budget of $ 1 Trillion per year? Looks like that is exactly what he said.&quot;

Not necessarily.

There are many compelling reasons to think that not even half that amount of money would make the civilian corps as strong as the armed forces. 

For one, humans provide much more direct change than something that is designed to replace them, or eliminate their use. So if you were able to match the enrollment of civilian corps to the armed forces, my money would be on the civilians to be stronger. 

Also, it costs much less to rent an apartment complex in Bankhead (or even build houses) for 40 people, furnish it, and pay them to teach elementary school students, than it would to operate an LA-Class Submarine, for example. 

Perhaps most crucially, there comes a time when the amount of money spent faces a diminishing amount of return for the power gained. So spending 800 billion on an army produces probably a marginally stronger army than the one you have at 700 billion. But with people, that amount is much lower and much more visible. Allotting $4 billion for recruitment probably won&#039;t yield any more enlistees than $1 billion or even $750 million. As 

The combination of all three of those makes it highly unlikely you will see too much more spent on those two programs than currently is spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A better question is, exactly &#8216;how&#8217; would Obama make them as powerful, strong and well funded as the military? Does that mean the Peace Corps and State Department will have a budget of $ 1 Trillion per year? Looks like that is exactly what he said.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not necessarily.</p>
<p>There are many compelling reasons to think that not even half that amount of money would make the civilian corps as strong as the armed forces. </p>
<p>For one, humans provide much more direct change than something that is designed to replace them, or eliminate their use. So if you were able to match the enrollment of civilian corps to the armed forces, my money would be on the civilians to be stronger. </p>
<p>Also, it costs much less to rent an apartment complex in Bankhead (or even build houses) for 40 people, furnish it, and pay them to teach elementary school students, than it would to operate an LA-Class Submarine, for example. </p>
<p>Perhaps most crucially, there comes a time when the amount of money spent faces a diminishing amount of return for the power gained. So spending 800 billion on an army produces probably a marginally stronger army than the one you have at 700 billion. But with people, that amount is much lower and much more visible. Allotting $4 billion for recruitment probably won&#8217;t yield any more enlistees than $1 billion or even $750 million. As </p>
<p>The combination of all three of those makes it highly unlikely you will see too much more spent on those two programs than currently is spent.</p>
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