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		<title>Comment on NPU F rejects Beltline proposal for 10th and Monroe by VaHiResident</title>
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		<dc:creator>VaHiResident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is so much misinformation about the opposition to the plans for 10th &amp; Monroe and the Subarea 6 Master Plan.  For purposes of the supposed traffic analysis that was done for Subarea 6, ABI assumed that 4,889 units would be built between Ansley Mall and the Home Depot shopping center.  ABI has also stated that this will DOUBLE the density of Subarea 6.  The plan calls for a 15 story building at Ansley Mall surrounded by 5 - 9 story buildings, 5 - 9 story buildings at Amsterdam Mall, 1 - 4 stories at the Midtown Fit stip mall at 10th &amp; Monroe, and 5 - 9 stories at Midtown Promenade (Trader Joes and the movie theater) and the Home Depot shopping center.  And of course, 8 stories on Piedmont Park at 10th &amp; Monroe and 4 story buildings on land that is zoned single family that is directly behind single family homes.  It is crazy to say that the development at 10th &amp; Monroe is needed for the BeltLine given the high amount of density proposed all around that area from Amsterdam Mall to directly across the street from that corner!  This is not a NIMBY issue.  The Redevelopment Plan, which was voted on by City Council to create the BeltLine TAD, calls for this land to be open space. Furthermore, it says that development within 150 feet of single family homes should be limited to 5 stories.  Thus, the plan for 8 stories at 10th &amp; Monroe violates the specific provisions of the Redevelopment Plan for open space and the general height guidelines in the plan.  In addition, it goes against the 4 story limit for development on the Midtown side of Piedmont Park.  Another disingenuous argument is that development is needed on the Park side of 10th &amp; Monroe to support traffic and intersection improvements at this corner.  Why can&#039;t the development that&#039;s proposed on the other side of 10th &amp; Monroe (across from the Park), and all of othe other development proposed for Subarea 6, fund these improvement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much misinformation about the opposition to the plans for 10th &amp; Monroe and the Subarea 6 Master Plan.  For purposes of the supposed traffic analysis that was done for Subarea 6, ABI assumed that 4,889 units would be built between Ansley Mall and the Home Depot shopping center.  ABI has also stated that this will DOUBLE the density of Subarea 6.  The plan calls for a 15 story building at Ansley Mall surrounded by 5 &#8211; 9 story buildings, 5 &#8211; 9 story buildings at Amsterdam Mall, 1 &#8211; 4 stories at the Midtown Fit stip mall at 10th &amp; Monroe, and 5 &#8211; 9 stories at Midtown Promenade (Trader Joes and the movie theater) and the Home Depot shopping center.  And of course, 8 stories on Piedmont Park at 10th &amp; Monroe and 4 story buildings on land that is zoned single family that is directly behind single family homes.  It is crazy to say that the development at 10th &amp; Monroe is needed for the BeltLine given the high amount of density proposed all around that area from Amsterdam Mall to directly across the street from that corner!  This is not a NIMBY issue.  The Redevelopment Plan, which was voted on by City Council to create the BeltLine TAD, calls for this land to be open space. Furthermore, it says that development within 150 feet of single family homes should be limited to 5 stories.  Thus, the plan for 8 stories at 10th &amp; Monroe violates the specific provisions of the Redevelopment Plan for open space and the general height guidelines in the plan.  In addition, it goes against the 4 story limit for development on the Midtown side of Piedmont Park.  Another disingenuous argument is that development is needed on the Park side of 10th &amp; Monroe to support traffic and intersection improvements at this corner.  Why can&#8217;t the development that&#8217;s proposed on the other side of 10th &amp; Monroe (across from the Park), and all of othe other development proposed for Subarea 6, fund these improvement?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Georgia&#8217;s &#8216;water wars&#8217; lawyer to make $$$ by wacko</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2009/11/20/georgias-water-wars-lawyer-to-make/comment-page-1/#comment-110886</link>
		<dc:creator>wacko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slight problem, TL.  It ain&#039;t a market what&#039;s setting this shyster&#039;s rate, it&#039;s an uncompetitive gummint contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slight problem, TL.  It ain&#8217;t a market what&#8217;s setting this shyster&#8217;s rate, it&#8217;s an uncompetitive gummint contract.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Georgia&#8217;s &#8216;water wars&#8217; lawyer to make $$$ by TL</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2009/11/20/georgias-water-wars-lawyer-to-make/comment-page-1/#comment-110883</link>
		<dc:creator>TL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, you certainly are in the wrong business.  You should switch immediately.  

On Monday morning, you should call up A.G. Eric Holder, or better yet, President Obama directly (I&#039;m sure you have both their numbers) and ask to be appointed Solicitor General of the United States.  After racking up what will, I&#039;m sure, be an impressive string of victories before the SCotUS, you can cash in and move to private practice and charge whatever hourly rate the market will bear.

Simple!  Will miss your blog posts though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, you certainly are in the wrong business.  You should switch immediately.  </p>
<p>On Monday morning, you should call up A.G. Eric Holder, or better yet, President Obama directly (I&#8217;m sure you have both their numbers) and ask to be appointed Solicitor General of the United States.  After racking up what will, I&#8217;m sure, be an impressive string of victories before the SCotUS, you can cash in and move to private practice and charge whatever hourly rate the market will bear.</p>
<p>Simple!  Will miss your blog posts though!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Georgia&#8217;s &#8216;water wars&#8217; lawyer to make $$$ by Sara</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2009/11/20/georgias-water-wars-lawyer-to-make/comment-page-1/#comment-110882</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though it is a ridiculous hourly rate, the group of attorneys who specialize in arguing before the Supreme Court (mostly former Solicitors General) can command a massive premium because they are a very small and elite group. The water war is almost certain to end up in the Supreme Court at some point, and Waxman is one of the best in that forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though it is a ridiculous hourly rate, the group of attorneys who specialize in arguing before the Supreme Court (mostly former Solicitors General) can command a massive premium because they are a very small and elite group. The water war is almost certain to end up in the Supreme Court at some point, and Waxman is one of the best in that forum.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NPU F rejects Beltline proposal for 10th and Monroe by wacko</title>
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		<dc:creator>wacko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Intown Lib, Wayne Mason thanks you very much for your blind support of whatever the Beltline has decided to be today.  The only emerald necklace anyone has seen is the one he gave his wife last Xmas out of the $40mm profit he turned.  Gotta pay for that somehow - let&#039;s see, how bout some condos down another side of the city&#039;s best park?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Intown Lib, Wayne Mason thanks you very much for your blind support of whatever the Beltline has decided to be today.  The only emerald necklace anyone has seen is the one he gave his wife last Xmas out of the $40mm profit he turned.  Gotta pay for that somehow &#8211; let&#8217;s see, how bout some condos down another side of the city&#8217;s best park?</p>
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		<title>Comment on NPU F rejects Beltline proposal for 10th and Monroe by Intown Lib</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2009/11/17/npu-f-rejects-beltline-proposal-for-10th-and-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-110878</link>
		<dc:creator>Intown Lib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in District 6 and support the Beltline.  Unfortunately, my choices for the district seat are 2 people who kowtow to the NPU wackos.  If the NPUs aren&#039;t led by more visionary people instead of NIMBY&#039;ers the Beltline is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in District 6 and support the Beltline.  Unfortunately, my choices for the district seat are 2 people who kowtow to the NPU wackos.  If the NPUs aren&#8217;t led by more visionary people instead of NIMBY&#8217;ers the Beltline is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Georgia&#8217;s &#8216;water wars&#8217; lawyer to make $$$ by Intown Lib</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2009/11/20/georgias-water-wars-lawyer-to-make/comment-page-1/#comment-110877</link>
		<dc:creator>Intown Lib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the most important legal case in Georgia ... EVER.  Pay this man whatever he wants ... but he better win or we&#039;ll all be paying BILLIONS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the most important legal case in Georgia &#8230; EVER.  Pay this man whatever he wants &#8230; but he better win or we&#8217;ll all be paying BILLIONS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NPU F rejects Beltline proposal for 10th and Monroe by Pstone</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2009/11/17/npu-f-rejects-beltline-proposal-for-10th-and-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-110872</link>
		<dc:creator>Pstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monroe is going to be a main artery of anyone living on the east side anyways.  Why not try to improve some of the terrible traffic that already exist by allowing people the option of mass trasit.  DC is perfect example of the way that Atlanta should model its transit issues.  Keep the older neighborhoods in tact but just put pockets of development around these neighborhoods.  The inman park village is a pretty good example.

A second thought, isn&#039;t the reason that they want to develop that area first due to the fact that the land is worth alot more...  so more tax revenue.  Its alot easier to sell someone a condo next to piedmont park than in SE Atlanta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monroe is going to be a main artery of anyone living on the east side anyways.  Why not try to improve some of the terrible traffic that already exist by allowing people the option of mass trasit.  DC is perfect example of the way that Atlanta should model its transit issues.  Keep the older neighborhoods in tact but just put pockets of development around these neighborhoods.  The inman park village is a pretty good example.</p>
<p>A second thought, isn&#8217;t the reason that they want to develop that area first due to the fact that the land is worth alot more&#8230;  so more tax revenue.  Its alot easier to sell someone a condo next to piedmont park than in SE Atlanta</p>
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		<title>Comment on NPU F rejects Beltline proposal for 10th and Monroe by trent</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2009/11/17/npu-f-rejects-beltline-proposal-for-10th-and-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-110846</link>
		<dc:creator>trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what morons. they need to just completely pull out of the NE. you can&#039;t reason with these people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what morons. they need to just completely pull out of the NE. you can&#8217;t reason with these people.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NPU F rejects Beltline proposal for 10th and Monroe by frankly</title>
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		<dc:creator>frankly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cityzen 

There is a difference between density and urbanism. Urbanism IS NOT about density, its about walkability.  Buckhead is just dense sprawl.  Most of the development there was built with ONLY the automobile in mind.  

If a neighborhood is walkable it can have any range of density&#039;s and still be desirable.  The fact of the matter is that the most desirable parts of the city, with the exception of Buckhead, are its most urban parts - L5P, Va-HI, EAV, Farlie-Poplar, Midtown.  

As far as congestion is concerned, anyone in the city or metro can drive on Monroe Drive.  Its not restricted to those living in the neighborhood.  Because YOU LIVE IN A CITY, there is likely to be congestion with or without this Beltline plan.   The only choice we have is traffic with an attractive walkable area bordering our most popular park or traffic with the ugly crap thats there now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cityzen </p>
<p>There is a difference between density and urbanism. Urbanism IS NOT about density, its about walkability.  Buckhead is just dense sprawl.  Most of the development there was built with ONLY the automobile in mind.  </p>
<p>If a neighborhood is walkable it can have any range of density&#8217;s and still be desirable.  The fact of the matter is that the most desirable parts of the city, with the exception of Buckhead, are its most urban parts &#8211; L5P, Va-HI, EAV, Farlie-Poplar, Midtown.  </p>
<p>As far as congestion is concerned, anyone in the city or metro can drive on Monroe Drive.  Its not restricted to those living in the neighborhood.  Because YOU LIVE IN A CITY, there is likely to be congestion with or without this Beltline plan.   The only choice we have is traffic with an attractive walkable area bordering our most popular park or traffic with the ugly crap thats there now.</p>
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