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		<title>Sarah Palin&#8217;s &#8216;told ya so&#8217; about Obama and the economy set to air tonight on (what else) Fox News</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/politicalwhore/2009/06/08/sarah-palins-told-ya-so-about-obama-and-the-economy-set-to-air-tonight-on-what-else-fox-news/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Garcia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Palin tells Hannity, "I think that more and more constituents are going to open their eyes now and open their ears to hear what is really going on and realize ok… Maybe we didn’t have a good way of expressing that, or articulating that message of ‘here is what America could potentially become if we grow government to such a degree that we cannot pay for it and we have to borrow money from other countries, some countries that don’t necessarily like America."]]></description>
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<p>Major has-been Alaska Gov. <a href="http://tampa.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/palin_s_people/Content?oid=511279">Sarah Palin</a> gets another round with a national audience tonight, appearing on Sean Hannity&#8217;s unquestioning show to say &#8220;I told you so&#8221; about Barack Obama. She&#8217;s flogging the right-wing bullshit about how we are creeping toward socialism. (See the <a href="http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/politicalwhore/2009/06/04/enough-with-the-barack-obama-is-making-the-united-states-a-socialist-nation-crapola/">Political Whore</a> post debunking that.)</p>
<p>From the interview, leaked (conveniently) to <a href="http://www.drudgereport.com/flashpfn.htm">Drudge Report</a>:</p>
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<blockquote><p>HANNITY: What do you make of – look at the state of the economy now&#8230;</p>
<p>PALIN: Well, when you consider that the federal government is about eleven trillion dollars in debt, and we’re borrowing more to spend more.. it defies any sensible economic policy that any of us ever learned through college. It defies economy practices and principles that tell ya ‘you gotta quit digging that hole when you are in that financial hole’</p>
<p>Palin continues:</p>
<p>&#8220;America is digging a deeper hole and how are we paying for this government largesse. We’re borrowing. We’re borrowing from China and we consider that now we own sixty percent of GENERAL MOTORS – or the U.S. government does… But who is the U.S. government becoming more indebted to? It’s China. So that leads you to have to ask who is really going to own our car industry than in America.&#8221;</p>
<p>HANNITY: You know but it goes back &#8211; It does go back a little to the campaign. I mean, ‘spread the wealth, patriotic duty…’</p>
<p>PALIN: Kind of a ‘we told ya so’.</p>
<p>HANNITY: Well, is that how you feel?</p>
<p>PALIN: That’s how I feel! I feel like… and I think that more and more constituents are going to open their eyes now and open their ears to hear what is really going on and realize ok… Maybe we didn’t have a good way of expressing that, or articulating that message of ‘here is what America could potentially become if we grow government to such a degree that we cannot pay for it and we have to borrow money from other countries, some countries that don’t necessarily like America.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Enough with the &#8216;Barack Obama is making the United States a socialist nation&#8217; crapola</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/politicalwhore/2009/06/04/enough-with-the-barack-obama-is-making-the-united-states-a-socialist-nation-crapola/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Garcia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The truth is we are farrrrr from a socialist nation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/conor_clarke/2009/06/what_socialism_looks_like.php"><em>The Atlantic</em></a> has a great column by Conor Clarke that should be required reading for every numnut who is going around spouting off that President Barack Obama has turned this nation into a socialist satellite. Yes, we can argue the wisdom of the GM bailout/semi-nationalization (and it appears, at least at this point, to be a bad deal for us taxpayers) but we are farrrrr from a socialist nation as a result, as Clark points out in his column and in this amazing graphic:</p>
<p><a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/conor_clarke/2009/06/what_socialism_looks_like.php"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-6789" title="socialism-chart" src="http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/politicalwhore/files/2009/06/socialism-chart.png" alt="" width="500" height="278" /></a></p>
<p>Do me and <a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/conor_clarke/2009/06/what_socialism_looks_like.php"><em>The Atlantic</em></a> a favor and <a href="http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/conor_clarke/2009/06/what_socialism_looks_like.php">read the entire column</a> and pass it along via e-mail to your goofy friends/relatives who bombard you with BS email about how we are becoming socialists.</p>
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		<title>Tampa Tea Party&#8217;s fear of socialism is unwarranted</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben Luongo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our PoHo contributor wanders into the lion's den to hear about the Constitution and the specter of socialism.]]></description>
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<p><strong>By Ben Luongo<br />
PoHo contributor</strong><br />
<em>Ben Luongo is a USF political science graduate student.  He will be graduating this spring.</em></p>
<p>I wanted to follow up on <a href="http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/politicalwhore/2009/04/14/tea-parties-on-tax-day/">my last piece </a>which was on the tea party protests, so I attended Tampa&#8217;s tea party at 5 p.m. on Wednesday.  I previously wrote that the debate on Obama&#8217;s spending has suffered from the failure of both sides to provide reasons for their arguments.  I therefore attended the event with the hopes of understanding some of the tea-partiers&#8217; reasons for their concerns.</p>
<p>Here is what we talked about:<span id="more-5235"></span></p>
<p>I talked with two campaigners with <a href="http://www.campaignforliberty.com/">Campaign for Liberty</a>, which was one of the organizations managing the event.  &#8220;The infiltration of government money into the economy is not the answer,&#8221; said one of the campaigners.  Their reason was that this type of spending leads to increased government and puts America on a path to socialism.</p>
<p>Socialism was a major theme at this event.  There were several speakers, all of which shared their concerns about socialism.  Organizations passed out pamphlets on securing America&#8217;s economic prosperity.  Protesters carried signs that accused Obama of being a socialist, communist or collectivist.</p>
<p>There was a second theme in the event — the American Constitution.  This, too, was a major point in speeches, pamphlets, and protestor signs, although it wasn&#8217;t clear to me as to how this event was relating these two themes.  I spoke with George Schwappach, an organizer with the <a href="http://www.tampa-tea-party.com/">Tampa Tea Party Group</a>.  He gave an intelligent explanation that the Constitution was designed around the idea of federalism and limited government.  He said that this type of spending is in conflict with the ideals of the constitution, and, according to how it is written, &#8220;Obama may not even be allowed to do this [stimulus plan].&#8221;</p>
<p>Relating the two ideas, there was a general overall concern that the move towards socialism didn&#8217;t only undermine America&#8217;s economic prosperity, but it also undermined the American Constitution, which by extension would be a threat to individualism.  However, these arguments equating Obama&#8217;s spending to socialism and collectivism are baseless because they suffer from a misunderstanding of what socialism really is, as well as Obama&#8217;s intentions.</p>
<p>Increasing regulation or government spending does not move a democratic society closer to socialism.  Democracy and socialism are two very different ideas and cannot conceptually merge closer to the other.  Democratic societies place the individual at the center of society; the state allows free individuals to pursue his or her own interests, unleashing each person&#8217;s particular skills where everybody practices what they excel at and therefore benefits from what others excel at.  Socialism, on the other hand, emphasizes the whole, where it regulates social activity to ensure the well-being of society.</p>
<p>So these are two very different ideas — democracy and the individual vs. socialism and society as a whole.  Here is where the confusion comes in.  People label Obama&#8217;s spending as a move towards socialism because they think it resembles the regulation of social activity that we find in socialism.  However, democratic societies also need government intervention and regulation in order to safeguard and uphold the individual at the center of society.  If a democratic society goes completely unregulated, then free social activity and economic prosperity might collapse into itself, which is what we saw with banks practicing absolute freedom to hand out irresponsible loans at the expense of the economy.  Therefore, even free societies need to borrow the idea of regulation in order prevent breakdown.  In other words, a democratic society may regulate social activity so that it can protect and maximize the individual&#8217;s capacity to act in that society, which is what Obama&#8217;s plan is geared towards doing.</p>
<p>I seriously doubt that President Obama has a socialist agenda in store for America, but I do think that he understands that protecting individualism sometimes calls for regulation and intervention.  His spending, while you may disagree with how he&#8217;s spending, is designed to recover the American economy, not socialize it.</p>
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