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	<title>Comments on: Billy Corgan has lost his mind</title>
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		<title>By: Starchild</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/tampacalling/2008/08/21/billy-corgan-has-lost-his-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-38844</link>
		<dc:creator>Starchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, dear, another QQer who wants a Gish IV and won&#039;t let the man develop and move on. So sad. Really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, dear, another QQer who wants a Gish IV and won&#8217;t let the man develop and move on. So sad. Really.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/tampacalling/2008/08/21/billy-corgan-has-lost-his-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-38576</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this shit surrounding the smashing pumpkins..

Gossip and theories about stupid little things...

Take a step back and breathe...

Your acting like a bunch of obsessive compulsive&#039;s.

Your freaking out all the other fans sitting back and drinking beer - not taking life too seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this shit surrounding the smashing pumpkins..</p>
<p>Gossip and theories about stupid little things&#8230;</p>
<p>Take a step back and breathe&#8230;</p>
<p>Your acting like a bunch of obsessive compulsive&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Your freaking out all the other fans sitting back and drinking beer &#8211; not taking life too seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Sal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps &quot;sugar high&quot; knows who &quot;Gary&quot; is: They both posted comments from the same IP address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps &#8220;sugar high&#8221; knows who &#8220;Gary&#8221; is: They both posted comments from the same IP address.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe Loewenberg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/tampacalling/2008/08/21/billy-corgan-has-lost-his-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-33177</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe Loewenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um, yeah... Gary, um... whats up with all that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um, yeah&#8230; Gary, um&#8230; whats up with all that?</p>
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		<title>By: alex pickett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/tampacalling/2008/08/21/billy-corgan-has-lost-his-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-33169</link>
		<dc:creator>alex pickett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loved the kazoo-filled ending</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>loved the kazoo-filled ending</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bardi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/tampacalling/2008/08/21/billy-corgan-has-lost-his-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-33151</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Bardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to admit, There&#039;s nothing more rock n&#039; roll than rubbing Marilyn Manson&#039;s disgusting white ass in the faces of those elderly Stones fans.

Oh, and you Wade. All those elderly Stones fans and you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to admit, There&#8217;s nothing more rock n&#8217; roll than rubbing Marilyn Manson&#8217;s disgusting white ass in the faces of those elderly Stones fans.</p>
<p>Oh, and you Wade. All those elderly Stones fans and you.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade Tatangelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wade Tatangelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, since everyone except me has commented on this post (great work, Gabe) I might as well opine, eh? I saw Smashing Pumpkins once. If memory serves, it was 1997 at the Orange Bowl in Miami and they were one of several bands opening for the Rolling Stones. I walked in a fan of the Pumpkins and left hating &#039;em. Sloppy, irritating blasts of noise were augmented by a ass-hanging-out Marylin Manson cameo. &quot;Sorry if that guy offended anyone,&quot; Keith Richards said when the Stones took the stage. They rocked, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, since everyone except me has commented on this post (great work, Gabe) I might as well opine, eh? I saw Smashing Pumpkins once. If memory serves, it was 1997 at the Orange Bowl in Miami and they were one of several bands opening for the Rolling Stones. I walked in a fan of the Pumpkins and left hating &#8216;em. Sloppy, irritating blasts of noise were augmented by a ass-hanging-out Marylin Manson cameo. &#8220;Sorry if that guy offended anyone,&#8221; Keith Richards said when the Stones took the stage. They rocked, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Bardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I only came here to talk about that crazy Gary character from a few comments ago and Jesus did I go off on a tangent.

So, now, Gary: WTF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I only came here to talk about that crazy Gary character from a few comments ago and Jesus did I go off on a tangent.</p>
<p>So, now, Gary: WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bardi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/tampacalling/2008/08/21/billy-corgan-has-lost-his-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-33139</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Bardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the Pumpkins show but have stayed out of this until now because Gabe&#039;s initial post wasn&#039;t really about the show. I can tell you the show was loud, the performance of &quot;Uniter States&quot; from the new album was the centerpiece of the evening and 10+ minutes of excellent, tear-your-head-off art rock, and the setlist was a terrific, well-paced mix of old classics (&quot;Siva,&quot; &quot;Tonight Tonight&quot;), rarities (&quot;Transformer,&quot; &quot;The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning&quot;) a mini-acoustic set and even some Pink Floyd. Does this mean it was a good show? I thought so, but you might disagree. Who cares?

I&#039;m chiming in now because I think we need to clear up whether the Pumpkins are a different band now that James Iha and D&#039;arcy are gone. I liked them both (Vieuphoria wouldn&#039;t be the same without them!), but remember that Iha and D&#039;arcy almost never played on Pumpkins albums. Go dig up any of your old music mags from the mid-90s and all you&#039;ll find is stories about how Corgan is a control freak, how Corgan plays all the instruments, how Corgan demands you do exactly what he says. You&#039;ll also find that Billy&#039;s main musical connection in the band was with drummer Jimmy C. In this sense, the Zeitgeist album has the same band on it that Siamese Dream did: Jimmy on drums, Corgan on everything else, supporting players (a girl must play bass!) for the tour. 

If you don&#039;t like the Smashing Pumpkins, that is fine and dandy. Just don&#039;t pretend you don&#039;t like them because it&#039;s not the &quot;real band.&quot; And for the record, I&#039;m not really a fan anymore. I was a huge fan in the Mellon Collie days, but that was a long time ago. In truth, I&#039;m not sure how I feel about them anymore. I still love the guitar playing but I no longer connect quite as hard with the doom and gloom pervasive in the music. I could blame my dissatisfaction on lineup changes, or I can realize that I&#039;ve also changed and that&#039;s fine.

Either way, it was fun to pop back in on Billy (I haven&#039;t seen him play since 1996) and see what he was up to. Though I don&#039;t really think of myself as a fan anymore, I still have great affection for the head Pumpkinman and I do hope his band comes this way again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the Pumpkins show but have stayed out of this until now because Gabe&#8217;s initial post wasn&#8217;t really about the show. I can tell you the show was loud, the performance of &#8220;Uniter States&#8221; from the new album was the centerpiece of the evening and 10+ minutes of excellent, tear-your-head-off art rock, and the setlist was a terrific, well-paced mix of old classics (&#8221;Siva,&#8221; &#8220;Tonight Tonight&#8221;), rarities (&#8221;Transformer,&#8221; &#8220;The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning&#8221;) a mini-acoustic set and even some Pink Floyd. Does this mean it was a good show? I thought so, but you might disagree. Who cares?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m chiming in now because I think we need to clear up whether the Pumpkins are a different band now that James Iha and D&#8217;arcy are gone. I liked them both (Vieuphoria wouldn&#8217;t be the same without them!), but remember that Iha and D&#8217;arcy almost never played on Pumpkins albums. Go dig up any of your old music mags from the mid-90s and all you&#8217;ll find is stories about how Corgan is a control freak, how Corgan plays all the instruments, how Corgan demands you do exactly what he says. You&#8217;ll also find that Billy&#8217;s main musical connection in the band was with drummer Jimmy C. In this sense, the Zeitgeist album has the same band on it that Siamese Dream did: Jimmy on drums, Corgan on everything else, supporting players (a girl must play bass!) for the tour. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like the Smashing Pumpkins, that is fine and dandy. Just don&#8217;t pretend you don&#8217;t like them because it&#8217;s not the &#8220;real band.&#8221; And for the record, I&#8217;m not really a fan anymore. I was a huge fan in the Mellon Collie days, but that was a long time ago. In truth, I&#8217;m not sure how I feel about them anymore. I still love the guitar playing but I no longer connect quite as hard with the doom and gloom pervasive in the music. I could blame my dissatisfaction on lineup changes, or I can realize that I&#8217;ve also changed and that&#8217;s fine.</p>
<p>Either way, it was fun to pop back in on Billy (I haven&#8217;t seen him play since 1996) and see what he was up to. Though I don&#8217;t really think of myself as a fan anymore, I still have great affection for the head Pumpkinman and I do hope his band comes this way again.</p>
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		<title>By: sugar high</title>
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		<dc:creator>sugar high</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At 2:05 he says the worst things about his peers, whom are not only way more successful than he is but are better at interpersonal skills, relationships and philanthropy. 
Not to mention new compositions.

So he is a basher, repeat offender by in gossipy fashion first bashing Thom Yorke for giving away his brilliant album In Rainbows 
via the net &amp; now this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pc1s37GY60&amp;feature=related

New music right now is better than it&#039;s ever been in an entire decade, with songs even being written about real world issues. What the hell is he talking about  every song sounds the same, thats not very supportive of new talent. Or what has he been listening to?

His old albums inclusive of and before Siamese with the rest of the real band Iha and D arcy are complete masterpieces though, if you can listen to them anymore. 

I can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At 2:05 he says the worst things about his peers, whom are not only way more successful than he is but are better at interpersonal skills, relationships and philanthropy.<br />
Not to mention new compositions.</p>
<p>So he is a basher, repeat offender by in gossipy fashion first bashing Thom Yorke for giving away his brilliant album In Rainbows<br />
via the net &amp; now this.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pc1s37GY60&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pc1s37GY60&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>New music right now is better than it&#8217;s ever been in an entire decade, with songs even being written about real world issues. What the hell is he talking about  every song sounds the same, thats not very supportive of new talent. Or what has he been listening to?</p>
<p>His old albums inclusive of and before Siamese with the rest of the real band Iha and D arcy are complete masterpieces though, if you can listen to them anymore. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t.</p>
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