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	<title>Comments on: A local band&#8217;s drummer woes</title>
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		<title>By: Screw you</title>
		<link>http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/tampacalling/2009/05/31/local-bands-the-woes-of-shows/comment-page-1/#comment-39930</link>
		<dc:creator>Screw you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After a listen of the material, one has to conclude that maybe the reason why no drummer will stick around, is due to the fact that drummers don&#039;t suck, but that this aptly named &quot;dreadful&quot; excuse for music does.

&quot;Rolling in the dough of fame-dom&quot;? You can&#039;t be serious!!

While you sit and whine about how poor Joel has to struggle to make ends meet, I have a hard time sympathizing when the world has REAL problems. It must be hard to be a mamma&#039;s boy snot nosed white middle class suburban kid from Florida. Just because you play a few chords on a guitar, you think you deserve to bash on drummers? Umm yeah, we all feel real soooo sorry for ya buddy. 

To the girlfirend, wannabe manager and writer: GET A CLUE!!!!

Have fun pushing all your stuff around in a shopping cart when you finally wake up some day, albit too late, and say to yourself, &quot;Hmmm...I wonder why I&#039;m homeless????&quot;  Get over yourselves!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a listen of the material, one has to conclude that maybe the reason why no drummer will stick around, is due to the fact that drummers don&#8217;t suck, but that this aptly named &#8220;dreadful&#8221; excuse for music does.</p>
<p>&#8220;Rolling in the dough of fame-dom&#8221;? You can&#8217;t be serious!!</p>
<p>While you sit and whine about how poor Joel has to struggle to make ends meet, I have a hard time sympathizing when the world has REAL problems. It must be hard to be a mamma&#8217;s boy snot nosed white middle class suburban kid from Florida. Just because you play a few chords on a guitar, you think you deserve to bash on drummers? Umm yeah, we all feel real soooo sorry for ya buddy. </p>
<p>To the girlfirend, wannabe manager and writer: GET A CLUE!!!!</p>
<p>Have fun pushing all your stuff around in a shopping cart when you finally wake up some day, albit too late, and say to yourself, &#8220;Hmmm&#8230;I wonder why I&#8217;m homeless????&#8221;  Get over yourselves!!!</p>
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		<dc:creator>ugg classic cardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Circle of Chaos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Circle of Chaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha.  How true these words ring!!  If you have only went through 3 drummers- congradulations!  We have went through 14 in 2 years.  Our problems have ranged from the words you have spoke plus the problems of; can&#039;t count to 4 (I&#039;m not exagerating here), one got attacked by the Mexican goat sucking demon in his sleep (we call him psychoboy now), one drummer drank so much at his tryout that he passed out in the driveway afterward; multiple drummers with drug and alcohol problems;one drummer that wanted to try out still lived at home and got grounded by his mom and couldn&#039;t try out... WTF??? lol; and the list goes on.... and on.... and on.....  the current drummer we have is an awesome drummer but super flaky and we don&#039;t know how much longer he will be with us.  The biggest problem we&#039;ve found overall is commitment and focus.  For example, we currently are very close to being signed by a record label the only thing needed is a full length cd - which is being paid for - and the drummer can&#039;t make the trip to go record it (2 whole days!! lol) because of some stupid problem that could be worked through easily.  He was all excited about it and now 2 days until recording he thinks we should put it off another couple months... WTF???  

So... we feel for your problems but overall if they are a drummer - don&#039;t expect much.  And if you are a drummer and are offended by this post - prove us wrong and tryout for the band!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha.  How true these words ring!!  If you have only went through 3 drummers- congradulations!  We have went through 14 in 2 years.  Our problems have ranged from the words you have spoke plus the problems of; can&#8217;t count to 4 (I&#8217;m not exagerating here), one got attacked by the Mexican goat sucking demon in his sleep (we call him psychoboy now), one drummer drank so much at his tryout that he passed out in the driveway afterward; multiple drummers with drug and alcohol problems;one drummer that wanted to try out still lived at home and got grounded by his mom and couldn&#8217;t try out&#8230; WTF??? lol; and the list goes on&#8230;. and on&#8230;. and on&#8230;..  the current drummer we have is an awesome drummer but super flaky and we don&#8217;t know how much longer he will be with us.  The biggest problem we&#8217;ve found overall is commitment and focus.  For example, we currently are very close to being signed by a record label the only thing needed is a full length cd &#8211; which is being paid for &#8211; and the drummer can&#8217;t make the trip to go record it (2 whole days!! lol) because of some stupid problem that could be worked through easily.  He was all excited about it and now 2 days until recording he thinks we should put it off another couple months&#8230; WTF???  </p>
<p>So&#8230; we feel for your problems but overall if they are a drummer &#8211; don&#8217;t expect much.  And if you are a drummer and are offended by this post &#8211; prove us wrong and tryout for the band!!</p>
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		<title>By: debt reduction</title>
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		<dc:creator>debt reduction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>drummers aren&#039;t really part of the band. They keep the beat so that is why they are so replaceable sadly. Really great drummers write music and have drum solos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drummers aren&#8217;t really part of the band. They keep the beat so that is why they are so replaceable sadly. Really great drummers write music and have drum solos</p>
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		<title>By: cnadeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>cnadeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t forget french punk pioneers metal urbain!  awesome drum machine rock.  check out PANIK by them on youtube and have a good time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t forget french punk pioneers metal urbain!  awesome drum machine rock.  check out PANIK by them on youtube and have a good time.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Weiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hard time seeing live bands perform with drum machines.  An avant-garde or electronic act is one thing, but a rock band should have a live drummer.

Or if we&#039;re talking about bands like Melvins/Big Business, Kylesa, or certain Trail of Dead songs... two live drummers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hard time seeing live bands perform with drum machines.  An avant-garde or electronic act is one thing, but a rock band should have a live drummer.</p>
<p>Or if we&#8217;re talking about bands like Melvins/Big Business, Kylesa, or certain Trail of Dead songs&#8230; two live drummers!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed with the above poster, nothing beats a really good live drummer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with the above poster, nothing beats a really good live drummer.</p>
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		<title>By: cnadeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>cnadeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even though i do not like the sound of drum machines in general- check out big black and their drummer affectionally named &quot;Roland&quot; for amazing drum machine recordings and songs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even though i do not like the sound of drum machines in general- check out big black and their drummer affectionally named &#8220;Roland&#8221; for amazing drum machine recordings and songs.</p>
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		<title>By: B.Treotch</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.Treotch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You’re not doing some great justice for the world. Drum machines sound just as good … and cause none of the problems.&quot;

my eyes just rolled out of my head..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You’re not doing some great justice for the world. Drum machines sound just as good … and cause none of the problems.&#8221;</p>
<p>my eyes just rolled out of my head..</p>
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		<title>By: Web Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This hits home, sadly.

It&#039;s tough as most drummers don&#039;t write songs in bands. I think that leads to less of a sense of ownership in the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This hits home, sadly.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s tough as most drummers don&#8217;t write songs in bands. I think that leads to less of a sense of ownership in the project.</p>
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