Phish Saves America: Save the Date is NOT in California!
July 13th, 2009 by Leilani Polk in Phish Saves AmericaIt is finally confirmed. Phish is not lame and did not drop all the most obvious hints about the location of the upcoming “Save the Date” fest so we could figure it out with little or no detective work. They led us all down a false trail, encouraging speculation and spreading rumors so thick and detailed that pretty much everybody and their brothers were convinced that the fest would be held at the Coachella site in Indio, California, also a city known for its date farms. (By date, I mean the fruit.) The rumors seemed so solid that hundreds (including a CL staffer, not myself), booked rooms in the Indio area.
Throughout the past several weeks, to hype up the forthcoming festival set to occur in a mystery location Oct. 30-Nov. 1, Phish anchored their homepage with an interactive pic of the United States, with various flash disasters — swarms of hungry ants, gods blowing storms in from the heavens, even Mike riding doomfully across the country on his Segway — to remove the possibilities state by state. California was still on the map up until today, when it was hijacked by four hot air balloons, casting all previous speculation into the dirt.
My original theory, since Nevada is still on the map, that Phish has decided to take over Vegoose and will either be the headliner on a bill of bands, or the sole band. Vegose is a Halloweentime fest. I guess only time will tell — but you heard the theory here first!
Stay tuned for a complete Phish Saves America wrap of the first leg of the summer fest, with pics and video.









July 13th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Vegas (and vegoose) is in Nevada, not Arizona.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
yeah, my bad. Those two states are interchangable for me.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Yea, they also stopped having the Vegoose festival, so there will be no “taking over”…that setup would be perfect for them tho
July 13th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
ewjrjdkls
July 13th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
DUDE___its still in Indio
DUDE___I know someone who is in the industry
DUDE___are you going to trust this source without a real announcement?
DUDE___I’m from CA, i’m sure its still at Inido
– summation of the hilarious “its still Indio” crowd arguments…
this may be your time to finally get off the train. Too heady for your own good…
July 13th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
i am not canceling my reservation(s) yet…
i like the vegas idea (it was after all on the short list of possible sites)… but there are a couple of other theories that are still floating around.
July 13th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Pete, you are so on the money. I, too, am sick of the headier-than-thous who think they know all the shiz. Although, maybe the hot air balloons will drop California back on the map, in the end. Maybe with some sort of grand deflating?
July 13th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
if you zoom the page in to 200%, CA is still there, suspended above the us by those four ballons. fairly sure that it’s gonna fall down in the end.
July 13th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
it’s def in cali at coachella site. sweet phail of a post.
hit ctrl + a few times and see what happens…
take it away – trick
bring it back – treat
July 13th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Balss, where do you get your info, other than spending too much time refreshing the home page?
July 13th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
cntl + = trick or treat indeed…
July 13th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
at least they haven’t lost their sense of humor!! who gives a shit where it’s at, you know we’re all going anyway!!
July 13th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
in texas like the original google map found in te first vid.
July 13th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
not in Indo
July 13th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
zoom out all the way[200%) and Cali’s still there!!
July 13th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
if you zoom in ..california is hovering above the map..the balloons will be retirning it..
the festival is in california..
July 13th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Or, much like the poor flash design that has preceded this one, the designer simply moved the state of California off of his active stage, but just failed to remove it at the end. This happens all the time, most people are not zooming all the way out of the page they are on though, so simply never notice it. I have a feeling as soon as they realize you can still see it, it will be corrected like earlier mistakes.
July 13th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
I like how phish is playing these games an what not, but i booked a hotel in Cali for this an i will gladly get rid of it, an want to because i dont want this festival in Cali. I would like to see it in the hometown of phish in the eastcoast somewhere. Im going to get rid of my hotel room and really really hope that they dont bring back cali because that will be very upsetting
July 13th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
If using internet explorer…zoom in. California is above the map still hovering…
July 13th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
This just in, I have spoken with the people at the Polo grounds who are now confirming that Phish will not be playing their for the three day halloween festival.
July 13th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
ok so we al know that if you press command + then you can see CA hovering in the sky.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RED BALOON IT LOOKS LIKE IT’S HOVERING OVER INDIO, CA.
The next one looks like its over bakesfield, the blue one is over San Francisco, and the Green balloon is over somewhere way up in NorCal.
My theory is that after all the other states are gone the balloons will drop CA back on the map, the top three balloons will break away and the RED balloon will land in Indio CA and the boys will walk out onto the stage!
here is a map of Indio CA i found on wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Riverside_County_California_Incorporated_and_Unincorporated_areas_Indio_Highlighted.svg
July 13th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
continued from last post…
If anybody can pinpoint where the balloons are hovering over. I think they might me venues/cities that phish as played in the past.
What venues has phish played in north east CA?
July 14th, 2009 at 6:34 am
way too much time thinking about this chap. they’re obviously playing indio.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:03 am
SAM BOYD IS OPEN FOR 2 WEEKS…
A VEGOOSE OF THEIR OWN?
MAYBE:
http://phishandthedead.blogspot.com/2009/07/sam-boyd-is-open-for-2-weeks.html
TAKE A LOOK-SEE
July 14th, 2009 at 9:55 am
maybe the Sam Boyd show is going to be the LG!
Jessica, you are deluded if you are really believing in California, you might want to nap a little.
Paul – With my tinfoil hat on, I can clearly hear Trey saying, “it’s in the 49th parallel”
July 14th, 2009 at 10:49 am
the fact that hot air ballons carried off California makes me wonder if it’ll be held in New Mexico. Albuquerque has the worlds largst hot air balloon festival every year….in Ocotber.
I live in Albq and am keeping my fingers crossed!
July 14th, 2009 at 10:55 am
And we also already know that the ufo that was pulled from the original animation is going to land in Roswell…which makes sense.
Party down with the aliens, in New Mexico. I like it.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:01 am
If you zoom in to 400% California is floating above the US with the balloons. So unfortunately, Cali is not out.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:18 am
I don’t understand your headline and the premise of the article. Did Phish ever say that if a state isn’t on the map, the festival won’t be there?
Has there ever been any instructions given by the band?
“Save The Date is NOT in California” – You’re so sure it won’t be in California based on a Flash animation that you’re presenting it to your readers as a fact?
July 14th, 2009 at 11:44 am
The balloons will drop after all states have disappeared and it will be in Indio folks..I love the hate for Cali though and how excited people are that think its still not there. EPIC fail on the writers behalf hahahha.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:50 am
^^^
Guess you haven’t worked in Flash ever? Not hiding, simply off the stage.
You’ve been flash’d
July 14th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
“If you zoom in to 400% California is floating above the US with the balloons. So unfortunately, Cali is not out.”
As Late to the Party has already pointed out, twice, you obviously have never worked with flash and don’t understand how it works.
Paul — I appreciate your pointing out the possibly-not-correct headline. As far as I can tell, and based on the entire idea of this flash animation — states being removed to rule them out as locations for the fest — Cali is OUT.
Savethedate — “Epic Fail”? Really? Let me guess — you’re a regular on Phantasytour and you’re known for making grand and epic statements that generally make you look like an asshole. Congrats — you’ve managed the feat here, too.
TO ALL: As I’ve commented previously (see above, about seven comments down), I have not entirely ruled out the idea that the hot air balloons could potentially drop California back on the map, in the end. Who knows, with Phish. IF that happens, I’ll be even more thrilled. Means they are the band I think they are.
And if/as soon as Cali is confirmed, I’ll write a new post. It will have a headline something to the effect of, “Phish Saves America: Save the Date IS in Cali!”
July 14th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Those of you who says its Phish playing a trick, please name one example of Phish “messing” with the fans (I refuse to write that word with a PH) other than teasing Thriller. please – because I have been seeing Phish for 191 years and I dont recall such “shannigans” before. i’m not angry or wanting to fight, I’m just curious.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
19 years – sorry…
July 14th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Ishmael, off the top of my head…
Flying in a giant hot dog
Taking pics with peoples heads cut off
Playing the opening licks to custard pie on halloween
Playing DSOTM right AFTER halloween
Claiming they were bringing Bruce Springstein out, only for it to be Tom Marshall (long before this bonnaroo)
Try playing DDloops just to “fuck with the people on the ferris wheel”
Telling phans that if they chanted the opening to Destiny, it would be played, and then mocking them.
Devising complicated musical signals in order to, among other things, have everyone who knew what was happening lay on the floor, while those not in the “know” watched dumbfounded
just a few, this band likes pranks, as Schapiro (maybe, don’t remember) pointed yesterday over twitter, “never trust a prankster”
July 14th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Leilani Polk, you newb. THE FEST IS IN CALI!!!
July 14th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Trey: Hey mike, wanna have a festie for the restie in Cali?
Mike: Sure, sounds ok.
Trey: Mike says No!
July 14th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
wow, you’ll write a new newstory…
July 14th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Map update, and no more floating California…
but dude, the fest is still totally in Indio! CONFIRMED
July 15th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Its not in cali get over it you were all wrong. People that still think its in cali are being dumb these new generation fans got to step back and learn something from the old school and please let the band sing the songs I’m noy paying to listen to twenty year olds sing or talk. Threw an. Intire show
July 15th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
the examples cited of Phish “messing” with fans were pretty sad – small jokes, not major fooling. I fail to see how teasing a Zep song for 1 second or saying Bruce Springsteen will come out and then five dseconds later you realize itsnot true just aint the same s folling fans into believing a festival is in one state. sorry.
furthermore, why would phish announce to 95% percent of their fans that this fast was not in Cali and let the 5% of insiders know. That would really upset a majority of their fans base (95% which is not on PT)
July 15th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
@davey I agree. Please will you folks stop singing along at the shows. Even at the Fabulous Fox when they came out and sang Star Spangled Banner, Yes it was funny, But no i do not want to hear two assholes singing it over the band. I can’t remember the singing along ever being this bad.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Call me Ishmael,
Is there a decoder ring I can purchase for that last comment?
July 15th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
I sold all the decoder rings…1 for 5, 2 for 10
sorry – I just wrote too quickly.
My point was that Phish would not try to fool 95% of their fanbase to appease those “already in the know”…in other words, the average Phish fan does not spend 12 hours a day on PT so they see the Phish website and assume based on how the game has played out to this point that Cali is out. Its just logic. And the insiders seem to think the joke is on everyone else. Maybe there was no joke, just that Indio fell through. I dont know, but I feel that the map is telling me California is gone. If I am such a fool, so be it, but If I had said last week that God “saving” Tennessee” meant that he would blow it back in eventually I would have been laughed out of the room (chat)…now the Cali or die folks are using this kind of logic ( dude- it will float back in!) –
NO – all the ballons represent is that the Indio rumor was nothing more than HOT AIR
(((Possibly even less coherent than my last post but I’m done…carry on.)))
July 15th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
those in the know spend no time on pt. except to amuse themselves.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:11 am
I think Cali isn’t happening. Sure they might bring it back in the end, which would be cool, but probably not. Do you guys really think Phish would make it that easy to figure out? UM NO. Its going to be somewhere no one could have ever expected, somewhere warm, somewhere they have never played possibly, and a state that has plenty of rural areas perfect for this phestival. My money goes on Mississippi. Go ahead and make fun now, but it is a distinct possibility.
July 16th, 2009 at 4:54 am
is it really 1 for 5 or 2 for 10 now?
what happened to 1 for 3, 2 for 5?
oh wait, it’s all coming back to me…
July 17th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Cali is back on the Map now. WTF? I thought the balloons took it away!
July 17th, 2009 at 11:14 am
now it’s gone…. hmmmm…
July 20th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Washington State is back, and Michigan comes and goes depending on my refresh.
Thanks for the clarification Ish, I know what you’re saying.
On a side note, in Hampton this year, outside the hotel…
“1 for 10, 2 for 20 and we only take $20’s.” These kids were for real, only twenty dollar bills, no other combination of currency would be considered. Sellers markets suck.
July 20th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
i can’t believe you guys still think it’s gonna be in cali..
July 20th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
what happened to the album JOY? I thought it was supposed to come out next week but no official word…hhmmm…
July 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 am
Haha, the jokes on us. Let’s see what happens next — announcement, or not? And tour, too?
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:23 am
held onto those reservations… bingo.
July 23rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Dont u feel stupid dont ever question the pt again Hans Brolo
October 8th, 2009 at 10:20 am
rip langerado im definitely going to this